The "T" has a higher output than the "R" as it has less turns of wire on the coils. The stock Gibson Les Paul Customs have 490R/498T: The pickups are Gibson’s 490R in the neck position, which offers the tonal characteristics of the original PAFs, and the 498T in the bridge position, which swaps the 490R’s Alnico II magnet for an Alnico V, thus making it slightly hotter with emphasis on mid-ranges and highs. Before the humbucker existed, single coil pickups were the norm. Les Paul Forum Homesite What is alarming about this thread is that you apparently cannot hear the difference between a solid Epiphone guitar and a semi-hollow Gibson guitar. $90.00. The 490T came stock in my 1990 Gibson Les Paul Studio. If I did that, I'd be able to buy a second guitar otherwise I will just buy the Sadowsky Semi Hollow and call it a day. There is a 490T and a 490R. Next Last. The Epiphone isn't solid, it's laminate. I just purchased a LP Traditional (weight relieved, as you know) and it's got 57 Classic / 57 Classic Plus pups. There are Gibson pickup specs at Gibson.com somewhere. I did this on my SD Special witch is a great sounding '89 with Gibson Bill Lawrence pickups. Great rock/hard rock pickup. $239.99. I know its totally personal preference and not meaning to insult anyone who likes them,but I hate the 498t.I like the 490r ,but the 498t I hate.I replaced the 498t in my lp studio with 57 classic plus and it made the guitar come to life.I replaced the 498t in my sg standard with the angus signature pickup and thats my number 1 guitar. The best combination that I have is my 1994 standard with 490/498 pickups. However, since all the Burstbuckers came out after the 498T, why … 57s are darker & lower output pickups than modern classics. I have an Epiphone LP with a 57 Classic and a Classic Plus. Discussion in 'The Tone Zone' started by kebek, Dec 7, 2011. ? I suppose this is a roundabout way of saying that the 490R/498T combo isn't as awful as I was expecting. Q: I see some Gibson guitars have ’57 Classic pickups and some have Burstbuckers. Im another fan of the 57 and 57+ which I think are great pups. I've never tried the '57 Classics but I have used the 490R/498T's and I currently have Burstbuckers in my 2002 LP Standard. I'm pretty sure that the only difference between the R and T versions is the polepiece spacing. i like my 490/498. You know the difference, of course? But they’re all described as PAF pickups. They were hot/muddy and most importantly, dull sounding pickups that didn't do a single thing for that axe. Haveing tried the '57 pu's for that "Classic" tone I can only speak for me but I personally love the 490r/498t set to bits. Ohhhhh no. or Best Offer. It's the Young Gun versus The Legend! im sure there are plenty of people (probably not on this site because most people are traditionalist) that love them. I've owned a Gibson Les Paul Standard in the past with the 490/498 combo and I hated those pickups with a passion. So much so that I purchased another set and put them in my Explorer. Already have an account? I've been toying with the idea of getting an ES-137 Classic and replacing PUPS with Seth Lover's. I thought it. My SG came with 490's and I replaced the bridge with a 498. Or should I be alarmed? $79.99. I've been playing for many years and I … . As with anything related to guitars, let Your ears judge what's better for You. The ceramic humbuckers (490/496/498/500) are modern sounding pickups. My other McCarty has some boutique pickups - a Wolfetone Marshallhead set, but Gibson's Classic '57s and P90s have always been a home run to me - even against fancier brands. I do prefer the 57 Classic set over these, but for a slightly higher output set of pickups, I was fairly impressed with these. We discussed with this Jim DiCola, a master luthier at Gibson USA.His response was that the ’57 Classic is made to Seth Lover’s original specifications, to … Should i position them as T-Tops in the above listing? That being said, Gibson seems to view the ALNICO V's as the "premium pickups", first with the 498T and now the BBPros. A: There definitely are differences. 2. I think it would be great if gibson would start putting them in the standards. Contact Us The Burstbuckers are the first Gibson pickup that I haven't wanted to replace. Joined Jan 10, 2008 Messages 255 Reaction score 9. Every single one of Gibson’s current offering of humbuckers seems to have the mission of recreating the sound of the legendary PAFs of old. Gibson claims the two have near equal output, don't know if I believe them or not. Doctor Dread Senior Member . Where to place the Tim Shawn pups in the timeline? I never really liked the 490R/498T combo. Hi everyone. Scroll Down And Click On All Of Our Sponsors' Logos For Their Websites! I'm not concerned about 2 conductor and 4 conductor wiring. My Lp still has the 498t and whatever the other is.....dont really like em to be honest.....the bridge just isnt ballsy enough....its hot yes but not ballsy if you know what I mean.....hard to squeeze good definition from it. IMO ,the 490R/498T are brighter sounding than the 57 classic/57classic + . The AlNiCo humbuckers ('57 Classics, Burstbuckers) have more rounder, mellow sound, for those who prefer classic Gibson tones. I own an LP with modern classics and I can't imagine a better "all-around" rock pickups than my 498T. Before I had a couple Gibson 500T 496R, but I'm tired. Joined: Mar 18, 2009 Messages: 897 Likes Received: 181. I preferred the 57 Classic plus. I do prefer the 57 Classic set over these, but for a slightly higher output set of pickups, I was fairly impressed with these. Which do you prefer? In a bright guitar, it could be piercing. $6.00 … And now, in the 2014 models, Gibson has ’59 Classic and ’61 Classic pickups. 490R & 498T vs Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates. I've got a LP Studio, chambered, with 498T / 490R pups. “The day you see a cowboy on a horse playing a piece of railroad track…”. They maintain their clarity with high gain and have nice sparkle on the top end. "I don't want to be part of any club that would accept me as a member" - Groucho Marx, I put 57 Classics in an '05 Custom black beauty. Hey there! Thread starter Doctor Dread; Start date Jan 10, 2008; 1; 2; Next. They have hot, edgy sound. Did you know,when T-Tops started and the end of produktionline ? They lacked character and clarity IMO. Thanks! However, I think an AlNiCo V pickup might clean up my neck … Wound a bit too hot for my taste, as well. There's more clarity, but it just sounds like a humbucking pickup should. They have about the same output and both have Alnico 2 magnets. Land of too much Political Correctness and where assimilation is a bad word. Just a friendly reminder that political discussion, (including "offhand" and 'sideways' commenting) is. This is subjective. 57+ are alnico 2, maybe that's what will make the difference for you over the ceramic tonally. Gibson 490R vs 57 Classic Humbucker. This is why Gibson decided to stack 2 single coil pickups … Gawd I hated that pickup (498). Joined: Mar 18, 2009 Messages: 940 Likes Received: 245. I do not consider the 498T "warm" at all, just very hot. gibson 57 classic quick connect, Introduced in 1990, the'57 Classic provides warm, full tone with a balanced response, packing that classic Gibson PAF humbucker crunch. To me the 498T is modern voiced compared to the classic voiced 57 and 57+. Any of you made this swap in your ES-137? I thought the 490's both were wound the same, the 498T is wound hotter. If given the choice over again, I would opt for the 57 Classics, as I feel they're the best pickups that Gibson makes, but considering I bought the guitar used with the pickups pre-installed, I guess there wasn't much choice in the matter! Neck 7.92 KΩ Bridge(57 Plus) 8.13 kΩ I find a chart with Gibson pickups that claims the bridges are 13.1– 13.8K. You need an account to post a reply. Turns out that this is basically impossible, because it seems that the golden-era PAFs were lashed … Gibson 490T Vs Gibson 57 Classic Plus! Just for kicks, I took resistance readings. '57's are considered warmer pickups in the Gibson "PAF" lineup. My Gibson SG Special has the 490R/490T combo which are both Alnico II while the 498T is Alnico V. The Alnico II's have a more classic tone and I love them just as well. The LP Traditional is far brighter sounding. Doesn't the Explorer already come with 489/ 498"s in it? The 490R/498T have more mids in their EQ compared to the '57 Classics which have their mids scooped out more for a thinner sound compared to the 490's. FAST 'N FREE. Click here to login, The ability to reply to and create new discussions, Access to members-only giveaways & competitions, Interact with VIP industry experts in our guest Q&As, Access to members-only sub forum discussions, Get INSTANT ACCESS to the world's best private pro audio, Promote your eBay auctions and Reverb.com listings for free. [/quote] But if Gibson did those things, they couldn't charge you another $800 for the '61 RI. MrRhoads Senior Member. burstbucker pro or classic 57 plus or 490R / 498T. I would bet it's the guitar. The Modern Classics (490R/498T) are AlNiCo II mags = a little warmer sounding. The Bill Lawrence pups … Jan 10, 2008 #1 Hi all, I'm a new member and a proud owner of my very first Les Paul, a '94 Studio in wine-red. Did they where refered als T-Top for neck and bridge? Recently, I changed the bridge volume with … :roll: I am using a 2019 Gibson Les Paul 50's Standard. Do you know which 490? Just bought an ES-137 with the stock 490R/498T combo. The Epi LPs do have laminated bodies and caps. I recommend to lose the tone sucking capacitor. Which Gibson pickup do you prefer and why? I did play a Gibson SG 61 reissue with 57classic pickups and they sounded alot better than the 490T in my taste, … That specific guitar just mates well with those pickups. The feel and playability are stunning, but... she's all original … i dont love them. i -- Default Mobile Style Simple task, one would think, no? Less turns of wire on the coils would mean less output, with the same magnets, unless you meant that the R has less turns. Lost all my crunch and sizzle and was just left with a dead sounding pickup with too much upper mid honk and absolutely no mojo of any kind. What will I gain by replacing them with Classics in the ES-137? In this video i compare Gibson's Burstbucker 1 and 57 Classic neck pickups. My favorite Gibson pickups, also in my LP Standard. 1 of 2 Go to page. Are they actually different? Overall they are pretty close sounding, they both sound like Gibson. I'm sure somebody here knows where it is now. Top USA Gibson SG Tribute 490R Humbucker PICKUP, Black Quick Connect Neck. The thinner sound in the bridge position is probably just from the difference in treble at that position on the strings. So. Took the plunge and installed 57 Classic (neck) and Classic Plus (bridge) on both of my ES-137s, replacing the stock 490R/498T combos. They were great, apart from the fact that they create a hum that came through the amp. $6.00 shipping . I'm wondering what the difference is between these pickups, from a technical aspect and personal point of view. Which Gibson pickup do you prefer and why? When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. USA Gibson Les Paul Tribute 490r 490t PICKUPS POTS KNOBS JACK Quick Connect. // Main vBulletin Javascript Initialization Make sure it's a 490R if it's in the neck. I have tried to make an argument for all of the pickups mentioned but the variation in wood tones changes the whole game. I know quite a few people that think the 490R/498T combination is Gibson's best. ’57 Classics vs Burstbucker Pros: A Pickup Comparison. Final episode of big pickups comparison. The Classic '57s have a more balanced, sweeter tone to my ears. Oddly enough, to me, the Classic '57s are a favorite. With same DC Ohm values? The stock Gibson Les Paul Customs have 490R/498T: The pickups are Gibson’s 490R in the neck position, which offers the tonal characteristics of the original PAFs, and the 498T in the bridge position, which swaps the 490R’s Alnico II magnet for an Alnico V, thus making it slightly hotter with emphasis on mid-ranges and highs. Is this going to be a huge improvement in tone, especially for more jazz playing? Sorry for the interruption! so if you love them then use them. I'm thinking along the lines … They're both laminate, they're as much plastic as wood. OK, I did some more research and found an answer. I find the 490T to be "tinny." burstbucker pro or classic 57 plus or 490R / 498T. Maybe you need to find a neck pickup that is … For the longest time, I replaced the next volume with 400K CTS and changed the bridge volume with a CTS 300K CTS pot. Gibson Pickups comparison with 1991 Les Paul Custom 57 classic - burstbucker 1 & 2 - 490R 498T - 496R 500T ; Tonal Differences Between A 490T And A 500T . I also think they should offer slim taper necks as well as rounded 50s style necks on the SGs. Was expecting a significant sonic difference between the two sets of pickups, but, to my surprise, they sound more similar than different. burstbucker pro 11 vote(s) 23.9% classic 57 plus 27 vote(s) 58.7% 490R / 498T 8 vote(s) 17.4% Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > kebek Active Member. I've had them in SGs in the past (that's the best pup for SGs I swear) and now I've got a pair in a PRS McCarty that's voiced a touch on the bright side. vBulletin_init(); So I have a set of these Gibson pups in a Epi LP Tribute Plus I just bought. Anyhow, YMMV, but the two pickup combinations are a night and day difference. Jun 9, 2009 #3 i tried the 490T in the bridge of my Les Paul and it was like in your SG, really thin as a neck pickup the 490T is wonderfull. A lot of the HC reviews of the ES333 bag the original pickups.

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